Ultra HD Blu-ray Announced: 4K, HFR and HDR

Discussion in 'High Definition' started by X-human, May 17, 2015.

  1. baggio

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    If space allows, a 40inch 1080p would be a nice upgrade. Considering your 32inch is about 7 years old chances the frame/border is much wider that the TV's out now. So a 40inch could only be around 6 inches more in width room.
     
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    haha, yes :D Out of all the DVDs I've sold off (before its imminent release - it's in the handful of Blu-rays I've regretted 'upgrading' to). Silent Night Deadly Night being the worst buy.

    Holodeck would be a dream, but probably not in our lifetime. Interacting with your favourite film would be kind of cool (I'm not sure about taking part in something like 'Demons')
     
  3. horrorlover

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    the Sanyo HDTV I have has a 4 inch frame around the edges probably, I have not measured, but it's got a pretty thick frame around the edges, and the bottom edge where the speakers are is probably 8 inches. I might look into a new TV someday, but I am trying to use this one as long as I can, cause they told me LCD last 27 years when I bought it haha.
     
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    Actually, this is not correct. Unless you're sitting RIGHT UP to the TV (<7-8'), your eyes won't be able to discern 720p from 1080p on a screen that small. That's why you'll notice most really small monitors (like below 19") aren't even available in 1080.

    However, I do imagine you'd notice an improvement from 480 to 720. My last screen was a 720p 42", and I immediately saw the limits of DVD vs Blu-Ray. Now that I have a 1080p 60", it's even more obvious.
     
  5. horrorlover

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    I probably won't update my TV until this one goes out, hopefully I get another 20 years out of it, that's what it was advertised as by Sanyo when I bough it, they said LCD will last an average user 27 years, and the picture on mine looks just as good as the day I bought it. I have only had 3 TV's in my life, one I got when I was 5 years old an 11" black and white, which still works, a 19" color, TV that I kept till 2008 when I got an HDTV, so I could watch over the air digital TV, and now my Sanyo HDTV, so I am not a constant updater of TV's, I am more about enjoying the actual movies, than enjoying the perfect crispness of an image, Don't get me wrong, I want the DVD or blu ray to look good, but with the older horror films I enjoy, they rarely look pristine, and I accept that, they will never look like a new release from 2015, but that's not important to me anyhow, that's not why I watch movies, I think like I read of the new Cult Epics blu ray release of Stay You Are, that it's an upconvert of a standard def source, that is a rip off if you ask me, and I would only buy the DVD of that, because it's much cheaper than the DVD, the PS3 will upconvert the DVD for you, I don't understand why Cult Epics would even release it on blu ray if they are using a standard def source for the blu ray that seems very dishonest to me.
     
  6. Angelman

    Angelman OCD Blu Ray Collector

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    My Blu Rays don't look good on my 1950s era black and white tube TV. I blame the discs.

    I can't imagine that 4K TVs will take off in terms of what we all discuss here (generally old horror films) unless somebody really gets their shit together and figures out a streaming service for 4K content where old horror movie fans can see everything they want. I mean, who will go back and re-scan in a film at 4K like… I don't know, Night of the Creeps? Is that EVER going to happen? Only if somebody with deep, DEEP pockets and loves horror gets involved.

    For newer content? Maybe. Even then, rebuying new TVs, players and discs for average joe is unlikely for what he'll get.
     
  7. Katatonia

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    Any "lifespan" expectation claims given by manufacturers should be taken with a grain of salt, especially with early technology that wasn't yet perfected.

    My LG LCD monitor lasted about 7 years from use before it started experiencing problems. That's slightly different than a TV of course, but utilized the same early LCD technology.

    In truthfulness, you'll be lucky if it lasts 5 or so more years of normal wear and tear without any problems, let alone 20. The backlight will most likely die, or the LCD layer itself will begin to age and you'll notice more and more visible defects on screen, like color shifts or dimmer parts of the screen. It comes down to how much you watch it, how often you turn it on/off, the operating environment around it, etc..

    There's actually a lot of older films that rival or look even better than many "modern" films on Blu-ray, when properly restored. The Wizard of Oz looks fantastic on Blu-ray for example, and that's from 1939.

    Some newer movies look incredible sharp and detailed...while others just look very average. It really comes down to how they were shot and other factors.
     
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    No. It's a miracle we got the blu-ray we did. That will probably be the last time that film is released in the physical medium.
     
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    Who really is the target audience for this kind of stuff? I've been a tech guy all my life and I love gadgets... but I don't have the type of money to get the "complete experience" out of 4K. In order to get the full experience you'd need the following:

    - A 4K (or more) television
    - A modern receiver and a 5.1 (or 7.1) surround sound system
    - An ultra HD blu ray player
    - The know-how to properly calibrate your video/audio systems
    - Running wires
    - Actually being able to find an ultra HD blu-ray (physical media is becoming harder and harder to find in stores)
    - The know how to find a disc whose transfer and audio mix won't be garbage

    It's no wonder that people would rather throw on something from Netflix on their iPads and call it a day.
     
  10. Zombie Dude

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    What's this "receiver" people have been mentioning? And is it really that hard to calibrate your own tv? I've got mine set to standard and it looks fine yet I've read people have spent up $400 to have their set calibrated. That just sounds ridiculous to me.
     
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    Soon as they release gay porn in Ultra BR format you bitches will buy it.
     
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    A/V "receiver", where you can hook up individual speakers and it decodes and outputs various audio formats to them.

    Nope, just get a good calibration disc like Spears & Munsil HD Benchmark. It's about $30, but well worth it.
     
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    Cheers, I'll have to look into that :)
     
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    haha they won't even release porn on blu ray hardly, they will NEVER release in on Ultra HD, but yeah if they released some hot chicks doing the nasty in Ultra HD, that'd probably HELP sell 4K tv's and ultra HD blu ray player haha, you are right lol.
     
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    They have 4k porn content online. Lots of HD stuff too.
     
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    yeah they have lots of 1080P porn online too, but it's not on blu ray though. So I don't expect this 4k porn will be on the new Super 4k blu ray player. no one buys porn anymore anyhow. Porn companies post a 10 minute trailer of their films that show all the good stuff anyhow, and then they post their own stuff on tube sites as advertisements and show all the good parts too. There is so much free porn that you can download legally off the internet and not even have to go torrenting for that it's not even funny, plus so much amateur stuff. Even Deep Throat the most popular popular porn film of all time isn't even on blu ray, I think that says it all.
     
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    It's true. There's so much online that there really isn't much point to have it on physical media.
     
  18. X-human

    X-human I ate my keys

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    Fox now has online pre-orders up for 4k UHD titles: https://www.foxconnect.com/4k-ultra-hd.html

    Release date for all 11: March 1st, 2016.

    Indications are each set comes with 4K Blu-ray, 2K Blu-ray and Digital Download. No DVD.

    What's surprising to me is the price point: MSRP $39.99
    Discounted 35% to: $25.99
    As that seems to include 3D when available. The Blu-ray 3D set for The Martian is MSRP $49.99 after all.

    So how about players? Samsung's 4K UHD Blu-ray player will be MSRP $499.99.
    Already discounted to $399.99 on their site: http://www.samsung.com/us/video/home-audio/UBD-K8500/ZA

    I'm genuinely surprised, I was expecting much higher price points at least for the first year or so. As my PS3 died and my Plasma is getting a little burn-in I'm very much thinking of stepping in much earlier than I even did with Blu-ray.

    And I missed this earlier, but Warner has made their announcements:
    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...-first-ultra-hd-blu-ray-titles-300197659.html

    So we'll have Batman vs. Superman and Suicide Squad out this year too then along with I'm sure Disney hitting hard with Star Wars and its Marvel movies. Should be an enticing year.
     
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    I'm excited about the new technology. I'm especially excited about the potential of a niche format where companies like Synapse, Criterion, Scream, etc. can thrive like they did in the laserdisc ear. Me, personally, this will be the first time in my adult life that I have zero intention, and even interest, in investing in a technology. I have too many boxes of DVDs and even blu-rays that go unwatched year after year. I'm getting rid of them. These days I'm generally found reading a book, listening to an audiobook, or watching one of the countless TV series I'm invested in. I find myself rewatching movies less and less. The few that I do revisit, I can live with watching them on bluray.
     
  20. Angelman

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    I can wait to see if it takes hold before investing.

    I was smart and got entirely out of DVD when I could still recoup a reasonable amount of $$$ out of my collection.

    My Blu Ray collection in 95% horror (no contemporary or dramas, etc), and only from late 1960s to 1990-ish so I'm very specific. I usually only buy titles I've never seen or titles I love. And I only by quality stuff.

    I feel what Dave is saying. I have so many to be watched Blus... Only reason I buy is because when I do have time to watch, I always enjoy.

    Zombie or Halloween in 4K, though? I'd probably cave and adopt.
     

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