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Old 08-15-2014, 07:54 AM   #1
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Full Moon Kickstarter

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...-fullmoonstrea

Full Moon is trying to raise $60k to make the next Killjoy movie. They are covering the other $100k, or so they say. I'm curious to everyones thoughts about it. I do not think they stand a chance of raising $60k. I also think, as much as I'm a fan of some of their older work, that Charles is a poor business person and is not to be trusted. I have heard too many horror stories.

If it were another Subspecies film, and with a larger budget than $160k, I would contribute. I have no interest in Killjoy and will not be contributing to this.

What do you guys think about raising funds to make a movie? I know the entire distribution for low budget movies has changed and that getting financial backers no longer seems possible. You pretty much have a TON of amateur stuff, the major studios, and then it seems there is very little in between. Am I wrong? Personally, I would prefer they try to raise funds where we get a piece of the profits like a traditional profits. I'm sure something like that can't be done through Kickstarter but there has to be other ways to do it.
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Old 08-15-2014, 08:14 AM   #2
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I backed one movie on Kickstarter once, and not only don't I know if it ever got made, I don't think any of the rewards ever got mailed out either (even the ones that didn't depend on the movie getting made).

So I'd be very hesitant to back another one unless it was something I really really wanted to make happen.
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Old 08-15-2014, 09:17 AM   #3
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Not seen a Full Moon movie since Castle Freak except for Hell Asylum (2002) which was included in a cheap DVD set. Never heard of Killjoy and the sequels until now, shows you how much interest I have in Full Moon these days.
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Old 08-15-2014, 10:23 AM   #4
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Unless it was a project that I really felt strongly about, no I wouldn't contribute any money.

...and Full Moon movies just aren't very good these days. I love their classic era, but the ones in the past few years have mostly been cheap junk.
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Old 08-15-2014, 12:21 PM   #5
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Charles Band haven't done anything watchable in 20 years.
Back then they shot on 35mm, and at least had SOME kind of budget and quality.
Now the production quality is on the same level as a bad porno

And Killjoy?!?

How about a last "Trancers" movie with Tim Thomerson? Yes he's old now, but could probably still kick our asses
But thet would need a bigger budget, so it will never happen.
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Old 08-15-2014, 01:37 PM   #6
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I'm awaiting (for eternity?) the Kickstarter for the 'hand over the original camera negative for Tourist Trap to Synapse'... so that they can do a better attempt at Full Moon's half arsed effort.

That is all.

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Old 08-16-2014, 12:21 AM   #7
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We tend to forget this, but movies are an economic activity and what happens in the economy does have a significant effect on the world of film production. And the simple fact is that movies - even lower budgeted ones - tend to be capital-intensive projects. Conditions and policies which affect capital formation, or which encourage the use of that capital for one purpose over another, are going to impact how much money can be raised for film production.

Case in point: over the past six years the Federal Reserve had injected god knows how many trillions of dollars into the global financial system via low interest rates and other forms of monetary manipulation. Other than inflating bubbles in real estate and oil and gas production, you'll notice that most of this money hasn't gone to produce anything that is tangible or physical. Most of it has just sloshed around the financial system, inflating other massive bubbles in stocks, bonds and other forms of financial paper. If you are not a San Francisco-based tech startup then raising capital for most legitimate productive purposes has gotten very difficult. And the ability to raise serious money for film production is a casualty of this.

Anyways, I ran a successful Kickstarter campaign a year ago in order to raise post-production funds for a documentary I was making. I only needed $7500 for that one and got it all and a little bit more. But it's a very serious time commitment on the part of the filmmaker, especially trying to get the actual work on the movie done while trying to fulfill all of the prizes as well.
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Old 08-16-2014, 02:30 AM   #8
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I enjoyed the last two Killjoys (much better than the first two) but I will not be contributing to this. Mainly because I don't trust Band and his antics.
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Old 08-16-2014, 04:00 PM   #9
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Killjoy 3 was entertaining, far better than parts 1 and 2 combined. Missed the 4th one so far but would probably give it a look.

I thought when Full Moon needed money, they would "find" another warehouse full of Puppetmaster dvd boxsets. They fucked themselves by releasing some of those on Blu, now they can't go back that well anymore!
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