Code Red working on a new Madman dvd - Page 11

springjack · 09-11-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fall Break

Can you tell me if the print was cleaned up? Many times there were scratches on the print that showed up time to time for quite a while usually right on people faces.
If they are gone I guess that could be looked at as a plus.

I only saw 20 minutes of it and it looks cleaned but keep in mind we?re talking about cheap original stock here.

There are too many artifacts in the picture that destract my attention.

The best way to see this is on a normal CRT TV, and even then you kinda noticed the shitty job.
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Steel76 · 09-11-2010, 05:05 PM

I rather take dirt and scratches over DNR/filtering jobs.
The MonsterHD transfers usually looks VERY good, I wonder if something went wrong during the transfer to DVD, maybe they went a bit over board with adding filters etc.
The Anchor Bay disc looks almost like HD in comparision

Too bad it was rushed out to meet the release date before Bill could go through it.
This could have been one of the best Horror releases of the year.

CPT HOOK · 09-11-2010, 06:31 PM

I have seen this a few times on IFC, and I seem to remember it matching the Code Red version. I specifically remember the cap with TP and the axe. But keep in mind, this is going from memory.

The 90 minute documentary sounds like it will be worth the asking price alone! Very excited for this! I remember reading somewhere that they visit the filming location of the movie, can anyone confirm this?

MisterTwister · 09-11-2010, 06:59 PM

I don't own the AB disc so this will have to do.

Fall Break · 09-11-2010, 08:13 PM

The CR version seems to have more picture around all the edges. Was the AB one matted or zoomed in more then the CR version or is that just the screen shots?

Does anybody know if the following print damage was fixed?

dave13 · 09-11-2010, 08:40 PM

i wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a small company like code red to do a disc replacement program, especially considering the poor sales and the state of the industry that Bill has been reporting here over the last few months. This certainly is a surprising disappointment (even for Bill, it seems), but this is a movie i've never had a copy of in any form, so this is definitely better than nothing. I don't love the movie enough to spend OOP prices on, so i expect i'll have to be content with this.

springjack · 09-11-2010, 09:30 PM

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The 90 minute documentary sounds like it will be worth the asking price alone! Very excited for this! I remember reading somewhere that they visit the filming location of the movie, can anyone confirm this?

I didn?t see the full doc yet but I can confirm you that.
I saw Madman, the producer and other guy visiting the woods and a shack. They were talking about scenes that were filmed in those places.

From what I saw in the documentary, I found some parts to be really amateur.
Get ready to play with the volume... some interviews are really low when compared to others.
We sometimes see some interviews that were filmed in blue/green screen and in the final composite, the two of them are badly put together.

The picture below is from a good example.
By the picture, you can?t see clearly what I?m talking about.
You have to see the doc playing to get a sense of it...

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springjack · 09-11-2010, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fall Break

The CR version seems to have more picture around all the edges. Was the AB one matted or zoomed in more then the CR version or is that just the screen shots?

Does anybody know if the following print damage was fixed?

Your answer... NO

Regarding picture information, this is 16:9 (1.78) and Anchor Bay is 4:3 (1.85)
The difference on the picture information would be from 1.78 to 1.85
Archor Bays delivers many movies with 1.85 to give them a cinematic feel.
Torso would be a example of this.
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bgart13 · 09-11-2010, 10:35 PM

I'm certainly no expert on MADMAN or if the blue hue is really supposed to be there. But bear in mind, Bill Lustig had a habit of tinting movies blue in the past when they weren't originally (see THE PROWLER and GHOST GALLEON as two quick examples). Does anyone have the original vhs to compare the tinting with?

Another thing that's important to note, screen caps don't always tell the whole story of a dvd's image. The recent UK dvd of BLOOD ON SATAN'S CLAW is a huge improvement over the original ABUK dvd, but many people have looked at the screen caps comparing the two and prefer the letterboxed AB dvd image because it appears crisper. But when I watch each dvd at home, the newer one is much, much better looking than the AB one. This is certainly up to the viewer to decide which is better though too. I haven't seen either of the MADMAN dvds yet, so I cannot praise or defend CR's but I have pretty good confidance that it'll be worth picking up (for the anamorphic transfer and from the past releases I have of CR).

Mutilated Prey · 09-11-2010, 11:19 PM

Wow, you guys are really bringing me down here - say it ain't so!

Looking at these screen grabs it's almost like comparing standard DVD (CR) to Blu-Ray (AB)! CR's look slighty muddy compared to AB's blue tones.

Hmmmm, I'm confused. I'll probably still get it cause I love the flick so much, but damn man. Glad I held onto my AB release.

springjack · 09-11-2010, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutilated Prey

Wow, you guys are really bringing me down here - say it ain't so!

Looking at these screen grabs it's almost like comparing standard DVD (CR) to Blu-Ray (AB)! CR's look slighty muddy compared to AB's blue tones.

Hmmmm, I'm confused. I'll probably still get it cause I love the flick so much, but damn man. Glad I held onto my AB release.

Sorry for the news but that?s the truth.

Horror fans are the best and more loyal in the world and they don?t deserve this.
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Katatonia · 09-11-2010, 11:40 PM

To anyone who has the Code Red disc right now... Is the disc a single-layer or a dual-layer?

If you need a free program to easily tell, I recommend VSO Inspector

springjack · 09-11-2010, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Katatonia

To anyone who has the Code Red disc right now... Is the disc a single-layer or a dual-layer?

If you need a free program to easily tell, I recommend VSO Inspector

My computer say tells me is dual-layer.
7.74GB
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Katatonia · 09-12-2010, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springjack

My computer say is dual-layer.
7.74GB

Thanks again for the info springjack.

Fall Break · 09-12-2010, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by springjack

Your answer... NO

Regarding picture information, this is 16:9 (1.78) and Anchor Bay is 4:3 (1.85)
The difference on the picture information would be from 1.78 to 1.85
Archor Bays delivers many movies with 1.85 to give them a cinematic feel.
Torso would be a example of this.

What the fuck now I'm pissed so this is the exact same print and AB print. All they did was dick over the filters and soften up the picture.

What a mess of a release.

No wonder CR dosn't want to use blu-ray. I would hate to see how that would turn out.

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Fall Break Stalker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 172	The CR version seems to have more picture around all the edges. Was the AB one matted or zoomed in more then the CR version or is that just the screen shots? Does anybody know if the following print damage was fixed? Last edited by Fall Break; 09-11-2010 at 08:30 PM.

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Mutilated Prey Soul Stealer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texarkana Posts: 5,076	Wow, you guys are really bringing me down here - say it ain't so! Looking at these screen grabs it's almost like comparing standard DVD (CR) to Blu-Ray (AB)! CR's look slighty muddy compared to AB's blue tones. Hmmmm, I'm confused. I'll probably still get it cause I love the flick so much, but damn man. Glad I held onto my AB release. __________________

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Katatonia Hellbound Heart Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Missouri Posts: 15,894	To anyone who has the Code Red disc right now... Is the disc a single-layer or a dual-layer? If you need a free program to easily tell, I recommend VSO Inspector __________________ "The machines are faster and the bombs are worse, as we're all sucked into this unholy curse." - Saint Vitus - War Is Our Destiny DVD Profiler Collection

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09-11-2010, 05:05 PM	#152
Steel76 Maniac Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Arvika, Sweden Posts: 538	I rather take dirt and scratches over DNR/filtering jobs. The MonsterHD transfers usually looks VERY good, I wonder if something went wrong during the transfer to DVD, maybe they went a bit over board with adding filters etc. The Anchor Bay disc looks almost like HD in comparision Too bad it was rushed out to meet the release date before Bill could go through it. This could have been one of the best Horror releases of the year.

09-11-2010, 06:31 PM	#153
CPT HOOK HackMaster Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: US Posts: 2,317	I have seen this a few times on IFC, and I seem to remember it matching the Code Red version. I specifically remember the cap with TP and the axe. But keep in mind, this is going from memory. The 90 minute documentary sounds like it will be worth the asking price alone! Very excited for this! I remember reading somewhere that they visit the filming location of the movie, can anyone confirm this?

09-11-2010, 06:59 PM	#154
MisterTwister Maniac Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lake Wales, FL Posts: 911	I don't own the AB disc so this will have to do.

09-11-2010, 08:40 PM	#156
dave13 HackMaster Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 3,753	i wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a small company like code red to do a disc replacement program, especially considering the poor sales and the state of the industry that Bill has been reporting here over the last few months. This certainly is a surprising disappointment (even for Bill, it seems), but this is a movie i've never had a copy of in any form, so this is definitely better than nothing. I don't love the movie enough to spend OOP prices on, so i expect i'll have to be content with this.

09-11-2010, 10:35 PM	#159
bgart13 Victim Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 54	I'm certainly no expert on MADMAN or if the blue hue is really supposed to be there. But bear in mind, Bill Lustig had a habit of tinting movies blue in the past when they weren't originally (see THE PROWLER and GHOST GALLEON as two quick examples). Does anyone have the original vhs to compare the tinting with? Another thing that's important to note, screen caps don't always tell the whole story of a dvd's image. The recent UK dvd of BLOOD ON SATAN'S CLAW is a huge improvement over the original ABUK dvd, but many people have looked at the screen caps comparing the two and prefer the letterboxed AB dvd image because it appears crisper. But when I watch each dvd at home, the newer one is much, much better looking than the AB one. This is certainly up to the viewer to decide which is better though too. I haven't seen either of the MADMAN dvds yet, so I cannot praise or defend CR's but I have pretty good confidance that it'll be worth picking up (for the anamorphic transfer and from the past releases I have of CR).