The best and worst of Blu-Ray quality

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  1. SaxCatz

    SaxCatz New Member

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    Stricly from an image quality standpoint, these are some of the standouts from my experience so far:
    * I don't have as much experience with catalog titles as I have an extensive DVD library and most of the catalog titles I care to see I already own and can only justify rebuying or renting my favorite titles. *
    BEST (Catalog Titles)-
    Blade Runner 5 Disc Complete Collector's Edition;
    My Bloody Valentine;
    The Battle of the Bulge;
    Halloween (I know there are some complaints about the color timing- but authentic or not I think it looks fantastic); &
    Hellraiser.
    (I just can't believe how good these releases look, probably far better than when they were initially seen in the theater.)
    WORST (Catalog Titles)-
    A Christmas Story;
    The Dirty Dozen;
    The Fifth Element (original, non-remastered release); &
    Young Guns.
    BEST (New & Recent Releases)-
    ANYTHING Disney/Pixar (like 'em or not, these studios just pour the utmost care into their releases);
    The Dark Knight;
    No Country for Old Men;
    Transformers; &
    Crank (this movie really shows off the advantages of Blu-Rays deeper color!);
    WORST (New & Recent Releases)-
    28 Days Later (in its defense- this film was shot in SD so will NEVER look better);
    Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone;
    Saw.
    It should be noted that my inclusion of a title on the list above does NOT mean that it is the best/worst overall image quality. Everything is on a sliding scaled based on the popularity of the release, the year it was released, the style it was filmed in, etc. No, the inclusion of a title on the list above is more a reflection of how impressed/disappointed I was with the PQ of a particular disc.
    As far as experience with Blu-Ray disc, I currently own 123 Blu-Rays and have viewed probably 150-200 more in the form of rentals. As such, I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on what makes a good title look great and a bad title look... well... bad.
     
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  2. Katatonia

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    I was surprised at how good Over the Top looked in HD. A solid upgrade from the old DVD. Rich colors and great details from a clean print. The lossless TrueHD audio track was surprisingly dynamic as well for an 80's film.
     
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    Just done watching Predator (1987). It looks way better than the DVD but those expecting eye-popping shades of green because of the jungle setting will be disappointed. It's also lacking fine background detail in some scenes.
    Those complaining about not enough grain rejoice because Predator has plenty.
     
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  4. Vlachio

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    Watched Predator 2 it's both amazing & horrible in quality. The print used is a big fucking mess. Some scenes look sharp while others look flat & muddy. Digital Noise Reduction is all over this shit.
     
  5. bigdaddyhorse

    bigdaddyhorse Detroit Hi-on

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    Sounds like every review I've read about this, and the only reason I haven't caved in and bought it anyway besides not seeing it for $10 or less.
    Sucks, my all-time favs on Blu are getting shafted and coming up short. First True Romance, then this. At least Casino looks great!
     
  6. Shannafey

    Shannafey Don't Monkey With Me!

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    I finally bought Star Trek this week. On sale at Best Buy for $17!! OMG!!! What an amazing looking Blu Ray!
     
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    It's definitely a gritty film. Although it could possibly be a lackluster transfer, after seeing many making-of featurettes on the film, I feel much of Predator was filmed in a guerilla style, so that may lend to the look of the film. Who knows, though. It will probably get a rerelease later on, so we'll see if it's improved upon or not.
     
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    I actually thought some scenes looked much better but yeah, Predator always had that dirty look going.
    I got the disc for peanuts so I wouldn't mind a re-release since this one is also lacking special features.
     
  9. bigdaddyhorse

    bigdaddyhorse Detroit Hi-on

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    Having owned or seen nearly all the releases for this film (including the UK SE dvd), some parts are just gonna be harsh. The scene with Arnold talking to Bill Duke after "The Body" gets smoked has looked like a grainy fucked up print on every version I've seen. Some parts looked great on blu, but the problems remain and seem like they always will. If there was a better print, it seems someone would've found and used it by now.
     
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    I was super desapointed with Halloween II (2009) I really Like the movie but the image quality of the Blue-Ray was Horrible, way to grainy and poor.:mad:
     
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    Kolpitz Purely and Simply Evil

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    I don't want to defend this movie artistically so this statement is purely from a technical standpoint, as I feel this movie has no artistic merits. But, the film was shot on 16mm (Zombie wanted the film to be "raw and dirty," his words, not mine), which may account for the excessive grain and your disappointments with the transfer. I'm not sure if that's the case or if the Weinsteins just fucked it up, but their Blu-rays are generally very good looking so I'd blame the source material.

    Also, don't forget (and, I feel like this has been brought up many, many times) but grain IS NOT A FLAW of Blu-ray transfers. Grain is a natural part of film. Cinephiles, such as myself (and Matt89, who has brought this subject up the most), want grain in our Blu-rays. I know, for me at least, it puts a smile on my face. If I watch a movie on Blu-ray that was shot on film and IT DOESN'T HAVE at least some grain, I feel like the film has been excessively tampered with, using DNR.

    Don't get me wrong, a film should never be grainier than the original film stock. Some films will be grainier than others and some will only have a slight amount of grain. A film like Halloween 2 will probably be very grainy, due the source stock and Zombie's penchant for making his films "dirty." I think one of the finest examples of film on Blu-ray is the Coppola Restoration of The Godfather trilogy. The films looked like someone was projecting 35mm onto my TV screen, complete with a healthy amount of grain.
     
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  12. SaxCatz

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    +1;
    I whole heartedly agree with both of these statements.
     
  13. 2D4EVER

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    I finally watched The Wild Bunch blu ray I bought probably a month ago. Holy shit it looks amazing especially every shot with those cloud-laden blue skies. I think it's only $10 just about everywhere.
     
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    Good to see some educated posts regarding film grain and BD. Sometimes I wonder if people have ever seen a film projected when they complain of this. If anything, I've grown to hate the near total absence of natural grain on DVD and LD.

    I thought Halloween II had a respectable transfer, consistent with the theatrical presentation.

    I do have a title to add to the BEST OF list.

    Friedkin's To Live and Die in L.A. :glasses: Do not hesitate to pick this one up! Note to Canadians, this title is an option for HMV's trade in deal...and that means if you bring an old DVD, you can get it for 10 bucks. I brought in my old copy of said film. You actually get a copy of the old SE DVD included, so there was no real reason to keep it. Probably my favorite purchase of 2010 so far, and the sound is great, too.:blabla:
     
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    The HD trailer for the Train DVD on the Saw VI Blu-ray looks amazing. Train isn't the greatest movie ever but hell, I would double dip if Lionsgate released a unrated version on Blu-ray.
     
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    Glad to hear! I may need to include this in my next order. :)
     
  17. The Chaostar

    The Chaostar Johnny Hallyday forever

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    Wild Bunch DOES look good.
     
  18. Cpt Rhodes

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    I am a huge predator fan

    I am a huge predator fan and love the blu ray but I also have the very rare ultimate gold edition, plus when star wars gets released on blu ray it will be awesome.
     
  19. Vlachio

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    You should have stopped right there! +1 kudos! ;)
     
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    A Scanner Darkly looks really superb on Blu-ray, it almost jumps out at you from the screen it looks so damned good.

    This was an earlier Blu-ray release from Warner however, and they only included a standard Dolby 5.1 audio track, which is okay, but it would have sounded nice lossless or uncompressed.

    I can't complain too much though, as it was only $7.99 on Amazon!
     

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