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Discussion in 'High Definition' started by Crystal Plumage, Mar 1, 2008.
Are we sure it isn't this?
I checked, nope.
My guess it's the 1983 film.
I'm pretty sure the OCN for Run Man Run was 2-perf 35mm, not 16mm.
The can on the picture gives the date 11-19-79. So it could in fact be Maniac ... if On the Run was actually a working title, which seems very unlikely.
That's great news! I love that movie.
Great News, but let’s hope, that he didn’t fuck up the colors and black level on this one, like he did on the old blu-ray.
I'm hoping for an Arrow release personally.
If Maniac is getting a 4K remaster, what are the odds Zombi 2 will get the same eventually?
I wouldn't bet on it. Blue Underground owns Maniac outright, but their license on Zombie (Flesh Eaters) / Zombi 2 is... complicated and contentious.
If I recall correctly, they hold a license through the US distributor, The Jerry Gross Organization, but the OCN is owned and controlled by the Italian production company, Variety Communication. Variety disputed JGO's claim to the US distribution rights and licensed the film, themselves, to Shriek Show / Media Blasters. While both BU and Shriek Show ultimately did release the film on DVD, the US rights were in dispute for a long time. It seems that the dispute was ultimately decided in favor of JGO / BU, but not until 2014, according to the US Copyright Office.
While BU seems to hold the legitimate US license to the film, I think they'd have an uphill battle trying to commission a new scan of the OCN.
According to the owners of the negatives for Zombie, Blue Underground never used them. So their claim about a new transfer, was just bullshit. They used a Video noise infested LVR scan.
Not the first time Blue Underground lies about making a new transfer from the negatives.
I thought exactly the same. Before the release of the old Blu Ray Mr. Lustig also claimed that they had scanned the negative of Maniac.
When/where did they say that? Shriek Show/Media Blasters gave Blue Underground access to their copy of the scan of the Zombi 2 negatives. SS had paid the Italian licensor. And then SS and BU worked out their deal. But there was some question of that wasn't there after Arrow did their release? Or am I mixing that up with The Beyond?
Come to think of it... I wonder if what really happened was Lustig knew the Italians wouldn't give him access, so he worked out a deal with Media Blasters to pay for distribution to get the scan. The MB guys are pretty shady, I wouldn't be surprised if Lustig was able arrange that with them.
It was mentioned, when Arrow went back to the negatives for the UK blu-ray.
When Media Blasters shared their scan, it was for the old DVD release, back in the early 00:s.
But BU used that same scan for their Blu-ray. So it was from the negative. Just an earlier scan. You said BU never used the negative at all. And when comparing the two there does not appear to be a generation gap of elements: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare3/zombie.htm It seems pretty clear BU used a scan of the negative for their own release. [I just want to note that this was the release where Arrow pulled a 180 in how they did transfers. I think they bragged a bit much and said some things about BU without all the facts because they were proud of the work. They've become more humble now, letting their excellent work speak for it self. BU quickly cratered after this.]
But yeah, "new" is a relative term in video distribution, thrown around a bit too flagrantly. While a scan can be old a "new transfer" can be made with more tweaks. For example Synapse's Suspiria transfer wasn't new-new because other distributors had released their transfers of the same scan, but Synapse's release was "new" because of their own separate restoration also "for the first time" in America.
If they used their old scan for the Blu-Ray, then this video is another proof of their lies?
Maybe they used the original negatives in the past (for the 2004 DVD, through Media Blasters), but according to the owners of the original negatives (when Arrow got hold of them), they did not use them, to make a new 2K transfer for the new Blu-Ray.
Read the info on the back of the cover:
Was the old 2004 transfer done in 2K?
He says their scan was the first one done from the negative so he's still working from the scan utilized for the DVD transfer. And that it was done in 2k.
Amazing, you say something and sometimes you find out it's happening. Zombie is getting a new edition along with Then Final Countdown:
Granted no mention about what kind of transfer it will be but I'm still betting 4K.
UPDATE: 4K remaster confirmed (man, I am on fire!):
^Oh, that's pretty!
And kudos to BU for using original poster art. I want my floating heads on covers to be decapitated ones only!