Arrow Video US / UK Thread

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  1. Zombie Dude

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    I'm aware of that. I did say on my rewatch I disliked it. My tastes have changed since I last saw it and it's gross to me now when it wasn't so much an issue the first time.
     
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    It's always supposed to be gross to you, as Twister pointed out. And I have a general attitude of: you can't upset me by grossing me out.

    (That was probably the answer you wanted the first time.) ;)

    The lovemaking (eyeball in and out of their mouths) scene is like the 80's equivalent to 2 Girls, 1 Cup.
     
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    We'll I meant more gross in the way that I just can't get through it now. I get that it's meant to gross you out but I don't dig that stuff much anymore.
    Also never seen 2 Girls 1 Cup. I heard enough to know to avoid it lol.
     
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    Yeah, I completely got that. And you should express your disinterest in things if that's what you feel. I just thought it was unusual that suddenly you found it gross and to use that word after you've already seen something which has a primary goal of grossing you out... Objectively, the scene in question (the lovemaking scene) can only have 2 functions. Either it's romantic (because of the music) or it's intensely disgusting. But it's clearly gross, otherwise the scene belongs to a whole other genre. Compared to the lovemaking scene in An American Werewolf in London, that was a tonal switch rather than a genre switch because, the second it's over we are counting down to a scare. It is lingered on to disarm you. Same isn't true for the eyeball in and out of their mouths scene.


    Wise choice.
     
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    My wife's viewing habits have changed quite a bit as well. When we were first dating/married (17 plus years) she didn't mind violence in movies. Now when we see violence in films some of it really bothers her.
     
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    He use to think necrophilia was hot, but now finds it's not. It happens. Usually when you're eating a chick out and find a maggot in your mouth. :eek:

    Give him some time, he'll get it back up. :cool:
     
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    I just used to love films like that and got a thrill from watching stuff I probably shouldn't be watching. As I've gotten older I just don't feel the need to endure that sort of thing when it's just violence for the sake of violence. It bothers me a lot more now. It just depends on the film and the way they tell their story as well, for example I really enjoy Poultrygeist from Troma (my favourite Troma film) because despite being gross it's also quite fun with its comedy and musical numbers etc. So it's not like all voilence and gore puts me off, just some films seem to only want to do that for shock value such as Nekromantik and the Guinea Pig series and that's not my thing at all. It just makes me feel ill and dirty.
    Yeah same for me. Violence, gore and whatnot used to not bother me at all. The more crazy and gross it was the better. Now I just can't sit through a lot of stuff like that unless the story is good and it's not gross and/or violent just for the sake of it.
    That's both humorous and disgusting lol. We'll done.
     
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    I'm the opposite - I don't enjoy films like Poultrygeist because they're childish and pandering.

    Well, that and the fact that they're trying to recapture bygone 80's glory. Same thing happened with the boom of parody / spoof movies we had a decade ago with the likes of Scary Movie, Epic Movie, Date Movie, etc. (Did you know it's been 10 years since Epic Movie?) They expected to be able to cut and paste the effect of the jokes from the Airplane!'s, the Spaceballs', the Naked Gun's, and the Princess Bride's without their clever set-ups. Without realizing there's more substance in them than just a wink and a nod. The 80's put a lot of thought into their gags and puns, etc. They could take a reference, like the coffee commercial in Airplane!, and would make it character-based.

    Nekromantik was original and tried something no one else would. Today, there are hundreds of movies like Poultrygeist. People make them in their backyards with all their friends. People make them on the internet- The Angry Video Game Nerd makes them. Bill Zebub makes pornographic versions of them. All over the globe, they make them. In every different language. They'll blame Troma, but more often than not what they really wanted their tiny movies to be was Evil Dead II.

    But, if we're comparing one 80's / classic property to another, I draw the line at torture and most if not all of stuff like Mondo Cane, Faces of Death, August Underground, Men Behind the Sun, Electrocuting an Elephant. Etc. Stuff that wants to be mistaken for literal documentaries. Just because, like you, no interest whatsoever. Nekromantik had a story and that's how I prefer my shock and horror. I'd take a risk with stuff like that or In a Glass Cage. Or, potentially, Salò. Though I haven't had the nerve to touch that particular thing yet and am genuinely dreading it.

    However, I highly recommend both Nekromantik 2 and In a Glass Cage to anyone. They transcend the shock film and become truly beautiful art films that are worth watching even if parts of their premises are disturbing.
     
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    I'm the same. I think that it may just be natural with age. After a certain point excess gore loses its charm and you begin to want something more than that, that's why when a modern horror movie is rated PG-13 it doesn't bother me that much. Gory doesn't equal scary in my book. Probably more than half of the classics I love wouldn't rate more than that today anyways.
     
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    Transfer for Donnie darko is terrific I watched both cuts and I think I prefer the directors cut overall terrific set I would get it before it sells out.
     
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    Yeah I picked up the Arrow set this weekend and also watched both cuts. I have to say, I much prefer the theatrical cut to the director's cut. I don't like the changes in the music, nor do I think it leaves much to the imagination anymore. The pacing is also better, and the theatrical cut is appropriately reserved in many aspects and I feel like the director's cut just explains too much in order to make the film more "accessible". You got it right the first time, why mess with it? That being said, I do appreciate Arrow including both cuts. It's interesting to note the differences.

    ~Matt
     
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    I agree, the theatrical cut is the far better cut of the film. The director's cut is still great to have for the pristine addition of the extra footage...it's just not as flawless in actual flow as the theatrical cut is.

    I went ahead and double-dipped on the US set, even though I already had the UK set from Arrow. The packaging is exactly identical except for the discs being region "A" (as opposed to being region "B" locked) and the lack of the UK region logos. I got the new set for under $29, so I'll just sell/trade off the OOP UK set soon. That still kind of pisses me off that Arrow announced the US set almost immediately after the UK set had been released. Had I have known, I would have just waited.
     
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    What kind of gory are we talking about, though? Evil Dead (1981)? Fulci's The Beyond? Peter Jackson's Dead Alive/Braindead? Or: Tromeo and Juliet?
     
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    See I don't agree when it comes to Poultrygeist. I think some of the childishness is what makes it so fun and humorous. Not to mention some rather enjoyable musical numbers and decent social commentary on things like the fast food industry. It all meshes together well for me and makes for a very entertaining film, more so than any other classic Troma film I've seen.
    I agree that's it's likely an age thing. Gore definitely doesn't equal scary not that I don't enjoy some gore in my movies. I do have an issue when movies are cut down to acquire a PG-13 rating but no issue with the rating itself.
    Well for me it's when gore or nastiness is used pretty much as the plot. For me Nekromantik falls into this, as do the fake documentaries you mentioned earlier like Faces of Death and August Underground. The Guinea Pig series is another one. They're just sickening and I avoid things like that now. Evil Dead, The Beyond and Dead Alive I like because they're more fantasy films so the gore doesn't bother me as much (a lot of the time it's fun because it's so over the top), whereas films made to glorify death and torture whilst trying to make it look real (usually with no real story) do bother me.
     
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    That's funny you say that about the DC because I was always recommended that cut. I'm not even sure I've seen the theatrical cut but I do know it's missing excerpts from the fictional book "The Philosophy of Time Travel" which I've heard helps you understand the story being told a lot better. Do the special features go into which version the director prefers? I know DC doesn't always mean what it should so I curious how he views it.
    With this set on the way I'm sure I'll get around to viewing both cuts.
     
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    Poultrygeist is one of the better films that Lloyd has directed. Just about everything about it is enjoyable. Any true Troma fan can clearly see what Lloyd was going for and it works very well. Troma films(Lloyd directed) are a required taste and that's what sets them apart from ANY other film. They never try to be like any other film, which they are obviously not. I really enjoy them for their uniqueness.
     
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